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Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:28 am

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Tips for each weapon

Knife

Normal stab: 10 HP
Backstab: 101 HP

Just go up to an enemy who is standing still, crouched, or prone, and stab them in their upper back. Most of the time, it's an instant kill. If you're a covert ops, it can be useful since you won't lose your uni when you stab from behind.

One interesting use of the knife is for disabling crew-served MGs (just knife the MG a ton of times, 2 nades have the same effect).

NOTE: If you are a covert ops, then a normal stab does 20 HP of damage instead of 10. Also, if you have covert ops level 4 skills, then a backstab is instant death.

MP40/Thompson

Bodyshot: 18 HP
Headshot with helmet: 40 HP
Headshot without helmet: 50 HP

Reload time: 2.5 seconds
6 rounds per second
30 rounds per clip
5 spare clips maximum

This is a great general-purpose weapon. Pretty good rate of fire, good clip size (30 rounds), and MP40's and Thompsons are very common so you can often acquire extra ammo by stealing people's guns after they're gibbed. Don't be afraid to fire at targets who are a bit far away. Be persistent, often enemies are closer to death than you think. Especially if they turn their back on you during the fight- then you know they're in trouble!

Note, the MP40 and Thompson are EXACTLY THE SAME. In RtCW, they weren't, but in ET they are (assuming you aren't playing SephMod or something where the damage and firing rates are tweaked).

Level 3 light weapons is very useful because it will reduce your spread. Note that in the original version of ET (etmain) there was a bug that you wouldn't actually get your spread reduced until level 4, but that has been fixed in the newer mods like etpro and shrub.

Also, on certain shrub servers, level 3 covert ops ("breath control") will also reduce your spread according to Pete "InThrees". One example of such a server is Goat's Bar & Grill.

See the basic skills section for tips on how to use it.

Luger/Colt

Bodyshot: 18 HP
Headshot with helmet:40 HP
Headshot without helmet: 50 HP

Single pistols:
Reload time: ~1.5 seconds
3.5 rounds per second (if you click fast!)
8 rounds per clip
24 rounds total

Dual-wield (akimbo) pistols:
Reload time: ~2.5 seconds
7-10 rounds per second (if you click as fast as you can)
16 rounds per second (if you use a script)
16 rounds per clip
48 rounds total

As you can see, the damage done by pistols is same as MP40/Thompson. But, obviously they are worse because of less rounds per clip, slower rate of fire, and recoil. So only use them once you're out of SMG ammo. Aim for the head, and try to make each shot count.

Don't underestimate pistols- if you run out of SMG ammo, it's often a better idea to switch to pistols and keep firing right away than to reload your SMG. Reloading simply takes too long if you're in the middle of a fight.

Akimbo pistols amazingly lethal, especially if you use a script to automatically make them fire as fast as possible. See the section on "tweaking" for the code for this script. 16 rounds per second is just slightly slower than an MG42. You have to use it carefully though, because it only takes 1 second to use up your whole clip. So, don't use your akimbos to fire at targets that are far away or moving quickly. The best use is at point-blank range, in a place where the enemy's movement is somewhat confined, like a narrow hallway. So keep in mind, the script is useful in only certain places. If your enemy is moving quickly, then you should just fire manually because otherwise you'll expend your clip in 1 second and then you're screwed.

Sten

Bodyshot: 14 HP
Headshot with helmet: 40 HP
Headshot without helmet: 50 HP

Reload time: 3 second
After 16 rounds, it overheats for 2 seconds
32 rounds per clip
64 rounds total

The sten is slightly weaker than the other SMGs, and it overheats after 16 rounds so try to fire in bursts if you can. Also, the sound effect is very quiet so it can be a bit disorienting when you use it- it feels like you aren't even hitting the enemy- but be persistent because you really are! If you are good with headshots, the Sten is a great choice because of it's great accuracy- you can shoot people who are at medium range (i.e. not very close to you) and still score headshots.

The fact that the Sten is silenced makes it a great choice because then you don't lose your uni when you kill people. Sometimes people you're shooting might not even realize they're getting shot for a moment or so, because they don't hear the gunfire.

The rate of fire of the Sten is pretty much the same as the Thompson or MP40, even though most people seem to think it's less (probably because of the quiet sound effect).

Personally, I think the Sten would be the undisputed best gun in the game if it weren't for the fact that it overheats. The insane accuracy and nice clip size is extremely useful.

FG42

Bodyshot: 15 HP (30 HP in sniper mode)
Headshot with helmet: 40 HP (48 HP in sniper mode)
Headshot without helmet: 50 HP (60 HP in sniper mode)

Reload time: 2 seconds
9 rounds per second
20 rounds per clip

Also known as the assault rifle, multi-gun, paratroop rifle, or "Spray and pray" weapon, the FG42 is basically like an SMG with sniping capabilities. At close range it is extremely deadly because of the high rate of fire. Unfortunately it's also very inaccurate (high spread), so at medium range you'll have to control your fire very carefully. At this range, you can't go in firing recklessly because if you fire in one long burst, you'll waste your whole clip in slightly over 2 seconds and then get caught on reloading.

If you're mainly going to be sniping and doing very little else, I would stick with a K43 or Garand. They do way more damage in sniper mode than the FG42 so you can often take out a guy with one headshot. They are also silent, and the scope can be zoomed in.

Sniping can still come in pretty handy if you are using the FG42. It works great at medium range. For example, on Radar, sometimes when I'm allies, I come through the side entrance, past the east parts, and climb up the ladder into the room above the axis spawn. From there, I can spot landmines around the parts, and snipe enemies who are guarding the parts.

You can also use sniping to make quick "potshots" at the enemy. What you do is basically go into sniper mode, get off 1 or 2 shots really fast, then get out of sniper mode. This is a good option when you're close enough to snipe them, but far enough that your accuracy will be crap. Here are a couple of times you might consider doing a potshot:

* You see an enemy running at some distance and they haven't noticed you yet. Give him a couple of quick shots to the head.

* If you're losing a fight from medium range, duck behind a wall or a corner, and wait for the enemy to come into view. As soon as he does, do a quick potshot. If you're lucky and the enemy was low enough on health, you can kill him before he sees you.

K43/M1 Garand



Bodyshot: 34 HP (50 HP in sniper mode)
Headshot with helmet: 48 HP (80 HP in sniper mode)
Headshot without helmet: 68 HP (100 HP in sniper mode)
8 rounds per clip (M1 Garand) or 10 rounds per clip (K43)

If you're an engineer, rifle grenades are very useful in a pinch, and give you engineering XP. Much like panzers, almost everyone hates rifle nades because they're cheap as hell. At least it makes some sense though- engies die pretty quick so at least they should have a decent weapon to defend themselves with.

Many veteran FPS players are very skilled with SMGs, so that may be a better choice for you- but I still suggest learning how to use a rifle nade. At close range, try to bounce the grenade at the enemy, and at far range you can use it like a mortar- it will go high in the air and explode on impact. You can also learn a lot of cool bank shots to hit enemies who are out of sight. It's a very difficult weapon to get used to because the nades don't go where your cursor is, and there is some delay between when you fire and when they impact. But, they're really worth learning, so practice with them every time you play engy.

The rifle itself is pretty powerful as well, doing approximately double as much damage per shot as an SMG. If your enemy has 100 hp or less, 3 bodyshots will be enough to kill him. The rifle's accuracy is less than that of an SMG, so it's mainly a close range weapon.

If you're a covert, this is a great weapon- it's silenced, powerful, and great for sniping. If you can, try to wait for the "sway bar" to be green before you fire.

One important thing to note. A lot of people don't like the M1 garand, for good reasons: it has only 8 rounds per clip instead of 10, and you can only reload once you finish a clip, which means if your clip is almost empty, you either have to fire the extra shots into the air to get rid of them so you can reload, or you have to risk reloading in the middle of a fight.

Note that on some versions of ET, the Garand and K43 are exactly the same (same clip size, and ability to reload any time). But this is usually not the case.

MG42

Bodyshot: 20 HP
Headshot without helmet: 20 HP
Headshot with helmet: 20 HP

18 rounds per second
150 rounds per clip
450 clips total

The MG42 is an extremely powerful weapon, typically used for defending choke points. Just set it up somewhere, put it on the bipod, and fire at anyone coming through the area you're defending. The main weakness is that when you have the bipod set up, your angles are very limited so you're pretty vulnerable if someone manages to attack you from a wide angle. Panzers, airstrikes, and rifle nades can also take you out very quickly. That's why you need to try to defend narrow areas, and also have quick reactions so enemies don't have a chance to kill you. The other main weakness is that you use up ammo very quick, so try to request ammo well in advance.

Although this is typically a defense weapon, you can use it as an offensive weapon in some situations. This can be devastatingly effective if you use it cleverly. Also, you don't always have to use the MG with the bipod while prone. Here are some unconventional uses of the MG:

* On Radar as Allies, set up an MG near the main gate and mow down axis who are guarding the west radar parts. This helps to clear the way for your teammates.

* On Battery, when you're trying to get up the assault ramp, set up an MG and fire at any axis such as medics, field ops who are trying to airstrike you, coverts sniping you, and coverts satcheling the ramp. You have to set up your MG at a very specific place for this to work though- check out the Battery Tactics section for more info.

* Run up to your enemy with a pistol, then as soon as you get very close to them, suddenly whip out your MG, crouch for accuracy, and spray them with bullets. Even though the MG is very inaccurate, at super-close range, it is accurate enough that you can mow people down very, very fast. One place you could use this is as Axis on Goldrush- say an Ally has just stolen the gold and is on his way to the truck. You can block his path, and mow him down at close range.

Note that crew-served MGs and tank MGs are also formidable weapons. Crew-served MGs are often placed in strategic locations, and are on high ground, so they can be very useful. When you use them, you will notice the screen shaking like crazy but it's actually just a bug: in reality, the fire goes where you are pointing. So, just keep aimed on the enemy, and you'll kill him. Tank MGs are excellent for mowing down targets at medium range. I love to hijack the tank if I'm playing axis: but this is something that you need to communicate with your team. If you want to use the tank MG against the allies, but the field ops on your team wants to airstrike it, you'll just end up getting blown to pieces.

Flamethrower

200 "shots" (each "shot" is one burst of flame)
No need to reload clips, never overheats

The flamethrower basically drains the player's health by 5 HP, at some rate. There are two ways a person can receive damage from a flamethrower:

1) Flame damage: As long as someone stands inside a flamed area, they will receive damage at a quick rate. The rate increases if there are more "flames" in that area.

2) Burn damage: Once someone has been flamed, they will receive an additional 30 hp of damage over approximately 2 seconds

So for example, if you flame someone, but then they immediately jump away to safety, they will probably sustain 45 hp of damage from the time they were in the flame itself, and then an additional 30 hp from burn damage. That's why it's so hard to kill medics, who often have anywhere from 125 to 156 hp. Also, since burn damage occurs so gradually, they can often heal themselves while they are burning.

The upshot is that if you want to be effective, you need to be persistent and keep people inside your flame for long enough- don't just spray a little piece of flame and then allow them to run away. It really helps once you have heavy weapons lvl 3 because you can run faster while holding a flamer.

Another strategy that can be effective is to burst someone with some flame, then while they're somewhat blinded and losing HP, finish them off with an SMG or pistol.

The toughest thing about flamethrowers is that you have to be pretty close to your enemy to use them. So, don't charge at enemies with a flamethrower- try to sneak up on them. Or, use corner whoring and clear out small rooms/areas. Another problem is flamethrowers are pretty messy- try not to kill teammates!

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:28 am

Panzerfaust

4 shots, very long recharge time
Instant death to anyone within a ten foot radius
Can be used to damage tank/truck

Firstly here's a picture for you to get some idea of the range of a panzerfaust:

Can you see the axis medic standing there? So, say you aim a panzer at the spot he's standing on. Then, the red area means your target has no chance, they're definitely dead. The pink area means they will probably die, unless they are a medic with high HP or an engineer with a flak jacket. The orange area means you won't kill your enemy, but you'll still score a hit, and deal some splash damage to them.

The key to using this weapon is to take out more than one guy at a time. If you can't do this at all, you might as well just be using an SMG. However on the other hand, it's OK to use your panzer for 1-man kills especially if you don't have level 4 heavy weapons. Better you take that shot and kill the enemy than try to hold your fire or use a pistol and then get killed by him. Maybe killing that 1 guy will clear the way for you to move further near an enemy spawn or gathering point so you can then get a nice big fat cluster of enemies.

There are a few places where a panzer can be especially useful:

1) Near an objective: For example, if the allies are trying to move the tank but the axis have taken control of that area, use a panzer to clear the area a bit.

2) Spawnkilling: Just find some place where you're relatively concealed or have a good height advantage, and then as soon as the axis come tumbling out of their spawn, take out a clump of them. Obviously don't stand directly in their spawn, because of the 3 second invulnerability.

3) Taking out an MG: Sometimes one MG can bog your whole team down. A panzer is often a good solution. The key is that you can't be slow about it, because the second an MG spots you, you will get mowed down very fast. Try to know exactly where the MG is before you expose yourself- either do this by leaning around a corner, or running out into the area where the MG is and then quickly running back. Once you know where it is, get just out of sight, start charging up your panzer, then leap out at the last second and let the shot fly.

4) Killing a specific enemy: For example, on Radar, if you're on Axis on Radar, and you see someone getting away with the radar parts, what would you rather have- an MP40 or a Panzer?

You probably already know this, but don't aim at the enemy. Aim for the ground they're standing on. So, try to know where all the spots are to get on to higher ground. For example, on Railgun, there are some spots where you can climb the steep hills and then stand up really high above everything else. If you must shoot someone who is on the same level as you, jump right before you shoot your panzer- even this small height increase can help.

Practice panzering at far range, as you will have to lead your targets by quite a bit. (If they're running to the right, aim to the right of them). Also practice close range shots. More specifically, practice panzering at close range without killing yourself Smile The key is to shoot slightly behind your enemy! Most people shoot down at their feet and end up getting vaporized.

Very useful trick: you can cancel a panzer shot by leaning left or right (use the Q and E keys). Practice doing this often so that when the time comes that you actually have to cancel a panzer shot, you don't freak out and forget to do it, or you fumble hitting the key, etc.

Mortar

A very much underappreciated weapon, I think. If you are good with a mortar you can make quite a lot of kills, as well as really piss of your enemies, since most of the time, you never know when a mortar is going to fall on your head and thus no way to avoid it Smile It works best when there are a lot of people playing, since that increases the chance you'll hit enemies. However, in my ol' clan JAE, our mortar was awesome and could get highest fragger even though teams were only 7v7.

The mortar is like the panzerfaust in that it does heavy damage to a large area. However, the nice thing is that you don't have to expose yourself to your enemies, and don't have to be on higher ground to be effective. The goal of the mortar is basically to take out as many enemies as possible- usually spawnkilling- so they don't bother your team. It can also be very good for targeting objectives. For example, use it to disable the tank on fueldump or goldrush. On Battery, mortar the assault ramp construction. Ive even seen one guy set up a mortar outside the antitank gun on Oasis- then when the engy on his team planted dyno and an enemy engy came to defuse it, he just mortared the room. Very effective!

Use the command map to figure out where your mortars are going. A little target symbol will appear at the point the mortar hit, so you can use that to perfect your aim. Another useful way to adjust your targeting is this rule of thumb: every decrease of 5 degrees in your angle roughly corresponds to your mortar going 1 extra square on the map. Typical angles I use are around 70-85 degrees.

You can also see where your enemies are by looking at your command map. Any enemies that a covert ops on your team can see shows up on your command map. Also, when a field ops calls an artillery strike, a symbol appears in that area showing where the airstrike is. It can be pretty effective to combine mortars with artillery strikes- that way it's extra likely that nobody will get past that point. I've also seen two mortars working together to very good effect. Both mortars target two points on a common walking route (often the route out of spawn).

Some of the best mortars I've seen were amazing at doing this. If you were on the other team and there was a covert ops nearby, you could count your life in seconds, because that would put you on the mortar's map. Obviously this takes a lot of skill because you have to be able to precisely calculate which direction and angle to aim the mortar based on what you see on the map. Targets may also be moving, which makes things even tougher.

Memorize the good mortar spots, and the angles you need on each one of them. Also, get yourself a spawntimer. (I recommend Heron's spawntimer- read more about it in the "Scripts & Tweaking" section.) When the enemy spawns, you should mortar them, killing as many ppl as possible. The rest of the time until the next spawn time, you should spawn other areas such as objectives, areas where enemies have been spotted on your map, etc. If you are very good at calculating where your mortars will land, you may even be able to take out annoying MGs or even other mortars. This may require some communication with your teammates.

When you run out of ammo, self-kill (use the /kill command, see the "Scripts & Tweaking" section for more information). Don't ask a field ops to be an ammo whore for you, and don't steal ammo from the cabinets, because then you'll guzzle up all the ammo that other people need. The only exception is if you have some low-level field ops on your team who really needs the XP, then you can tell him to feel free to give you ammo.

You might notice that if you set up your mortar on a steep hill, the angles that you can shoot on are modified. So, unless you actually want to get an odd angle, set up your mortar on flat ground. The weirdest exploit of this is that you can actually sit on top of the lamp in the bank in goldrush, and set up your mortar at zero degrees and aim your bombs in the doorway to the bank. (I don't recommend doing this, hehe).

Another very odd use of the mortar I've seen is on Goldrush. What you do is set up your mortar right before the Axis spawns (at the second spawnpoint, near the bank), and shoot straight up (90 degrees) right after they spawn. Then just sit there. What usually happens is the enemy sees you sitting there, and then everyone starts shooting, trying to kill you- instead of running out of the spawn like they really should. So, by the time they kill you, their invulnerability has worn off, and the mortar you shot into the air finally comes down and takes out several Axis at once. If your enemies don't know about this "trick", this can be very effective.

Grenade

Depending on your class, you get anywhere from 1 to 8 grenades each life. Make sure to use them! That's a whole lot of really good firepower up your sleeve, and most people use them only occasionally. One way you can tell the difference between a good player and a great player is how they use nades.

The main uses for a grenade are:

* Clearing out a hallway where intruders are coming (listen for footsteps)
* Clearing out an enclosed area, such as the bank room in GoldRush
* Killing somebody who's chasing you without getting into a fight
* Killing somebody without being seen by them
* Suicide mission (run into a group of enemies while charging. They kill you. Boom.)
* Damaging a tank (everyone should help with this!)
* Defending an important area or objective
* Disabling an MG
* Gibbing an enemy
* Clearing spotted landmines

Practice aiming your nades. Memorize how to throw them at the right angles to go inside windows or doorways, etc. Get good at chucking them a short distance or tossing them in a high arc.

Also practice timing how long you charge up your nades. You can "prime" (charge up) a grenade by pressing and holding the left mouse button. As soon as you want to throw it, let go. As you're holding it, the grenade will make a "tick" sound. On the fifth tick it will explode. Here is a quick guide to how you might choose to prime your nades:

* No priming, or 1 tick: Mostly if you want to nade spam, e.g. throwing nades on your own dyno so engies can't defuse it. If you have only 1 nade you're going to throw, you should prime it so it has some chance of actually killing.

* 2 ticks: Useful for lobbing nades with a high arc so that they explode roughly after they hit the ground. For an even higher arc, you could jump as you toss the nade. You can also create little "nade mines" in the ground so that they explode when someone runs over it. For example, if someone is following me, maybe I'll throw a nade on the ground after 2 ticks. They'll run over it thinking that I didn't prime it so they still have 5 seconds til it blows up (BOOM!). The same trick can be used if you want to blow up a corpse. Medics might come to revive thinking they have longer than they actually do until the nade blows up. You can also toss a 2-tick nade at a high arc if you want it to explode slightly after, the key is to jump as you are tossing it so it gains extra height.

* 3 ticks: This kind of nade can either be used at a short range (explode slightly after impact) or you can toss it up at a medium arc to have it explode on impact. This is probably the most common kind of nade I use personally.

* 4 ticks: Basically a short range rifle nade Smile It will explode more or less on impact at a short range. You can't really make this go very far though because if you try to lob it, it will explode in the air.

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:14 pm

Thank you now I am redy to own I think Razz Wink

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:32 pm

You will NEVER be ready to own Cool

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Naiter* on Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:07 pm

Meh.. Took a while to read all of your tips but I read them all woo! lol
Well i knew most of those tips but thanks anyway Smile

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:54 pm

yeah i knew most of them too =)
but i do think the nade tips are very handy Very Happy
i think you got this from ET-strategy too? Razz

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Re: Tips for each weapon (very good to know)

Post  Guest on Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:48 pm

the only word is tnx maaayne!!! the tips are awesome Exclamation

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