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Do you prefer 8 bots or 12 bots?

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Post  Trance on Sun Jan 03, 2010 6:53 pm

Can u maybe lower a bit bot skill lvl ? Cuz i think that they react now too fast (etc i respawn near flag as allies on sos map and axis bot is shooting to me through the wall alrdy Neutral) and they r aiming hs too often . Now even Soldier with colt is able to kill me cuz from far distance 3 shoots and its after me o.0 Dunno maybe i wasnt playing 2 weeks and its my imagination but dont think so
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Post  {GTB} Pr3dAtOr on Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:04 pm

They cant shoot throught walls, but they have wallhack so they know where you are.

I agree with giving them a lower skill, because everyone doesnt like to be pwned by bots.

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Post  {GTB} Granny on Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:59 pm

OK I will have another look at them.

I thought I had already lowered their level.

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Post  {GTB} Nodrog on Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:58 pm

nps for me im used to being pwned by everyone lol! lol! lol! let alone bots
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Post  {GTB} D-DAY on Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:22 pm

dunno if its there "level"...

just the fact they headshot you with a pistol from half a map away, and see you through the shrubbery... must remember to stop wearing fluorescent pink camoflage gear.

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Post  {GTB} Nodrog on Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:36 pm

lol! lol! lol!
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Post  {GTB} jimbobaloola on Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:19 am

i think your pink jumpsuits are quite fetching d-day, lol! lol! lol!
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Post  {GTB} birra on Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:13 pm

Haha pink suits.

Yes i DEFININITELY WHOLE-HEARTEDLY AGREE WITH GREAT VIGOUR AND ARDOUR, regarding the bots skills. They should be reduced, not a bit for quite a bit. Got fed up of being shot by bots far away, pisses me off so i leave the server. Also if possible remove the " wallhack" or them being able to shoot through shrubbery. And not so many headshots.
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Post  {GTB} Granny on Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:20 pm

The BOTS are now set to below the level that they were before we upgraded to 1.2.7.

As for shooting from far away, that has always been a problem for BOTS but I will look into it again.

As for shooting through shrubbery etc, that is the map makers fault.

If the BOTS do not know they are there then they will shoot through them and try to walk through them.

BOTS will only follow a route that is set by the waypointer although when they get blown across the map they will then try and get to the nearest available waypoint. If there is a wall between where they land and the waypoint then they do not know that.

As for headshots, I have DRASTICALLY reduced the aim capabilities of them, any less and they will all need wheelchairs to move around in.

I suggest you play more and get used to shooting them before they shoot you.

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Post  {GTB} URmS on Sun Jan 10, 2010 8:23 pm

If you get close to the bots and mobe around a lot then they can't turn fast enough and they are easy to kill.

If you are far away, then they don't need to move their crosshairs a lot to hit you.

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Post  {GTB} birra on Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:22 pm

Thanks Gran for DRASTICALLY reducing their aim capabilities. Now ill check them out and hopefully wont be swearing all time time.

I appreciate you time for looking into such problems.

Just one thing, what do you mean by this?? (Below)

{GTB} Granny wrote:If the BOTS do not know they are there then they will shoot through them and try to walk through them.

Who's they??
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Post  {GTB} URmS on Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:29 pm

Wikipedia wrote:A bot, most prominently in the first-person shooter types (FPS), is a type of weak AI expert system software which for each instance of the program controls a player in deathmatch, team deathmatch and/or cooperative human player. Computer bots may play against other bots and/or human players in unison, either over the Internet, on a LAN or in a local session. Features and intelligence of bots may vary greatly, especially with community created content.

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Post  {GTB} Granny on Tue Jan 12, 2010 8:53 pm

I mean the bots can't actually see anything in the game.

All they do is follow a route set by the waypointer (Me or whoever waypointed it)

e.g They do not know there is a door there.

I have to program them to do an (Open the door) operation for them to actually get though a door.

Some things are hard coded into their script like getting the objective, but not where to take it.

However, if there is a door blocking the objective then they wont be able to get to it.

Manning MGs is also hardcoded which is why it's very difficult to stop them using them.

I hope that makes sense.

Maybe you could look into waypointing, it's not as difficult as it first looks.

Then we can have any map you want.

At the minute I haven't got much free time as I am in and out of Hospital every five minutes.

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Post  {GTB} birra on Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:28 pm

Well you didnt actaully answer my question but im happy with the info you gave me. So how do they shot you if they dont see??

Hospital? The bad weather or soemthing wrong with you? Dont tell me whats actually wrong with you if you dont.
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Post  {GTB} Granny on Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 pm

I don't mean they can't see anything.

It's difficult to explain.

They don't know there is a wall there, so they will try and get to a waypoint by going through a wall.

That is why you sometimes see bots stuck, they are trying to get to a waypoint though a wall or other obstacle.

This doesn't mean they can see through or shoot though a wall.

Foliage etc are models that can be shot though or walked though unless the map maker has decided to add something to the model that makes it so that it can't be shot or walked though.

As for the hospital, that's even more difficult to explain, let's just say I haven't been feeling too great for the last year.

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Post  {GTB} birra on Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:26 pm

Gran please lower bot level more, they're still too good.
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